My neighbour committed suicide
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Topic: My neighbour committed suicide
Posted By: nago
Subject: My neighbour committed suicide
Date Posted: 19/January/2005 at 2:32pm
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We played sports he won trophies we went to univeristy together --he studied really hard i didnt he couldnt get a job in his field and had big loans he lost everythng his car, wife left him a couple years ago, he started drinking and stuff, i havent seen him for over a year. last night he jumped off the bridge I recommend everyone that is having problems dealing with the crap(their are tons of us) to talk to someone. ------------- http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2sn9.jpg |
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Posted By: Islander
Date Posted: 19/January/2005 at 3:40pm
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Nago, I am truly sorry to hear that. Believe me, I know how it feels. There is nothing I can say. ------------- What? Me, worry? Alfred E Newman |
Posted By: Hunter2
Date Posted: 19/January/2005 at 4:42pm
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Nago
I am very very sorry. There are no words :( |
Posted By: kwelmm
Date Posted: 19/January/2005 at 5:19pm
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Nago, my heart goes out to you...that is truly difficult to deal with. That is very compassionate to prompt others to speak to someone in your time of need! Take care and know that we care. Let me know if you want to talk and we can email....... |
Posted By: whereto?
Date Posted: 19/January/2005 at 7:54pm
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Damn.... My condolences man....... |
Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 20/January/2005 at 3:39am
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unfortunately nago's neighbour isn't the first and won't be the last to succumb to the pressures of student loans at their worst. i had a friend in high school jump off a bridge because he didn't get accepted to the university his parents were pushing for - he couldn't face them and did the unthinkable. too much pressure and any nut will crack. nago, you know we are here if you need us. ------------- professionals built the titanic but amateurs built the ark... |
Posted By: polyhymnia61
Date Posted: 20/January/2005 at 5:16am
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nago... This is just heartbreaking. Hugs to you. If there is anything positive to come from this, it's that you realized a small glimmer of hope in your own life. That you would be compelled to encourage people suffering from life's sh*te to talk to someone else made me think, "Yeah, go nago. He's being kicked around, but he isn't giving up." You're a fighter, nago. And you'll be okay... Poly ------------- Home is where you are allowed to prosper. |
Posted By: hunter
Date Posted: 20/January/2005 at 6:59am
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Nago
My thoughts are with you. I have had several friends this past year pass away. Two committed suicide as well. It is heartbreaking, and I will never understand the reason. I am praying for you bud. Keep in touch, we are each other's strength. Don't keep your hurt inside. Talk to someone Reach out When you need us, we are all here. You know where to reach us. |
Posted By: BigFatherA
Date Posted: 20/January/2005 at 4:54pm
Prayers and Condolences . . 
------------- BigFatherA Priest & Teacher non carborundum illegitemi est |
Posted By: KimM
Date Posted: 21/January/2005 at 3:39am
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A boss at Nortel used to say...don't get mad get even... Hang in, don't let them get to you.... Very sorry about the loss...
------------- Nehemiah 5:7 Then I consulted with myself, and I rebuked the nobles, and the rulers, and said unto them, Ye exact usury, every one of his brother. And I set a great assembly against them. |
Posted By: pretzel_logic
Date Posted: 15/February/2005 at 5:47am
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Ain't no bridges high enough... where I come from. But seriously, you gotta believe that reason will eventually prevail, however slow the process. Last time I checked, we lived under the rule of rational law and such. And I can envision an end to the kind of vicious treatment we experience as consumers. Because we did consume a product, be it in the form of educational services. And often case, ones that were offered by the State or at least government-backed. And all under the promise that an higher education would lead to a better life. The government has its responsabilities in this mess and hopefully ackowledges it. This process of policy rectification seems engaged. But man, is it slow... In the meantime, hang in there. And know I and others feel your pain.
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Posted By: pretzel_logic
Date Posted: 15/February/2005 at 6:16am
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Not knowing exactly how to edit my posts, I have to apologize if the opening remark from the last post is deemed insensitive. I did not fully grasp your relation to the deceased when I wrote it, having read too quickly. And feel awful if any harm was done. Certainly, none intended. I just wanted to illustrate how suicide is one avenue contemplated at one time or another by many among us. Again, sorry for the faux pas.
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Posted By: 100yearstogo
Date Posted: 16/February/2005 at 2:37pm
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"When one person dies, it's a tragedy. When 1000 people die, it's a statistic."
I forget who said that. It seems the government is only interested in statistics. I've lost a lot of things too, to this abusive system, my life was not amoung them, just by chance, and only by chance. Younger people reading this should take note and get educated about the law. It's more important than the education you are going in debt to get, because it might save your life, or at least your lifestyle. |
Posted By: lugarou
Date Posted: 16/February/2005 at 4:21pm
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The amount of pain and suffering I've done to my wife and children
because of my Student Loans and the misery my wife endures every day
having to do a job she despises all because I was stupid and "trusted"
the loan process. Watching her waste away as her hopes and dreams are
forgotten makes me want to stick a gun in my mouth except that my life
insurance would be useless in the event of suicide thereby leaving them
in greater financial burden (sure my debts can't become theirs but
really, can you trust that the collection agents won't try? ). All I can hope for is a brain aneurism or get mowed over by a drunk driver while taking out the garbage. So yeah, I can understand why someone would do it. ------------- Did I mention I'm a Drama Queen? |
Posted By: lugarou
Date Posted: 16/February/2005 at 4:26pm
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Just to be clear, I've always suffered from bouts of depression and
thoughts of suicide since I was 12. But since I've also always been a
procrastinator I've never gotten around to it. The student loans thing
just make the lows so much lower. Thankfully this website and information has given me the ability to not allow the Collection Agents to prey on my lows. For that I am ever grateful. ------------- Did I mention I'm a Drama Queen? |
Posted By: 100yearstogo
Date Posted: 16/February/2005 at 5:48pm
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lugarou;
I think that you need to talk to someone before one of your low points gets the better of you. I hope you are already doing that if you feel you need to. I wish you all the best, man. Pressure is one thing, but guilt is another. This is more dangerous. Bankrupcy was invented for people in your situation, (and mine, before the 6 year rule kickked in. - see 19.1 of Canada Student loan Act) If I may be very bold: you owe it to your wife and children to get out of this. You may owe money to the government (same gov. that gave away $100 Million to ad. firms in Quebec) but you owe it to to your kids to be there; It's not worth the risk, depression is a very real and very dangerous illness, (I've lost too many friends to this} above all it is not something we are wise to deal with alone, it preys on people who feel alone and trapped (not unlike some of the less professional collectors) If you had a heart condition that could kill you if you submitted yourself to stress you would avoid stress. This post is not just for you; the ratio of lurkers to posters is likely 10:1 There is certainly someone reading this that has thought of taking their problems to the bridge. (as I have) There are people there for you. If anybody reading this feels they can identify with it there is a number on page 2 or 3 of your phone book that will give you someone to talk with. They won't know who you are or what number you are calling from, but they will listen. It doesn't brand you if you call. You don't have to get the number tattooed on your forehead afterward. You don't have to change your name to "Basket Case". NOBODY WILL EVER KNOW, but you might feel better. They call it a suicide prevention line or a crisis line, but you AREN'T SUPPOSED TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER the suicide to call!! I wish all of us stressed out souls all the best. Please excuse the excessive caps. --------- Rule #1: Don't sweat about the small stuff. Rule #2: It's all small stuff. Rule #3: Money is the smallest of the small stuff, as long as you have enough to eat. |
Posted By: lugarou
Date Posted: 16/February/2005 at 6:47pm
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thanks for the advice, 100. Really, because I'm such a procrastinator I
haven't topped myself. I came to terms with that a long time ago. What
I can't do is not have the "visions", the mind-made scenarios of life
being better without me. I look at them as being like migraines. Have
them, move on. Once again, great advice, although I got branded a basketcase a good 30 years ago.  ------------- Did I mention I'm a Drama Queen? |
Posted By: SolveStudentDebt
Date Posted: 16/February/2005 at 6:47pm
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lugarou, If tyhere is anything you would like me to do for you, let me know. ------------- Solve Student Debt specializes in solutions for students and graduates in student loan default, and those at risk of defaulting. http://www.solvestudentdebt.com" rel="nofollow - solvestudentdebt.com |
Posted By: CARGO1
Date Posted: 16/February/2005 at 9:52pm
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lugarou, If you need help with anything please do not hesitate to ask. Troy ------------- ����The best way to forget your troubles is to wear tight shoes.
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Posted By: lugarou
Date Posted: 17/February/2005 at 5:18am
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I'm very grateful for your offers for help. Truly I have my "urges" under control. Got a few coping methods that have done fine over the years that my wife just dismisses as me being a guy. I've also removed other triggers. I don't drink heavily anymore or go out partying. If anything I can be a resource to those on the edge since I'm sitting there taking in the view. My coping methods are not without their flaws, however. They usually waste time on their own, e.g. games, or carry their own risks. If it was the only method I'd have been the only guy in Canada to kill himself when the NHL locked out its players  .Honestly, this site and the resources within have allowed me to bash one ugly trigger over the head. In fact I look forward to the CAs calling so I can make them squirm. ------------- Did I mention I'm a Drama Queen? |
Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 17/February/2005 at 12:05pm
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lugarou i can relate, only i have an extremely active imagination and can play scenarios out in my head. my depression has been a given since i was a teenager. i don't get suicidal or anything like that, just very withdrawn. having my kids makes it easier to get through it all - they are the best therapy. i hope bettman rots in hell. me, im also a bit on the obsessive compulsive side so getting educated and haunting this site are great helps. if you're bored, email me, i'd love to chat and make a new friend. ------------- professionals built the titanic but amateurs built the ark... |