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Topic: Do options really exist here?
Posted By: calg5000
Subject: Do options really exist here?
Date Posted: 07/January/2005 at 8:39am

Okay if you have no assets and no income and you are going to school from the good grace of family. What really are your options. One part of my loan is in interest relief while the other is in collections. How can I make things right with anyone financially under the circumstances. I guess I just feel like no options exist under current circumstances. Of course I want to pay my loan back but how. I will not be finished school for one more year. The I should start at 50,000 as that is the base salary for a teacher in alberta. Then I will begin paying but before that how can I get things in a positive state.

 

thanks for your time and I wish everyone the best




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Posted By: hunter
Date Posted: 07/January/2005 at 9:25am
calg5000

You pretty much answered your own question, you have no assets and you have no income, so you are not in any position to pay anything.
If you had income you could offer something, however, this is not the case.
My suggestion would be to contact the dept. where the loans are in collections and explain your situation.
You have said that you want to pay the loan, you are just not able to now, but in the next year you will have the money to pay them back.
I was in the same situation for many years.
Earning minimum wage, paying rent, utilities, bus fare and still trying to survive. I did not make one payment for student loans, as they would not accept my $ 25 payment, but at least I was trying. So in this time,which was about 6 years, I never paid anything.
Now, I am earning more money, but it is still hard trying to stay afloat since my b/f heart attack, but I am paying them $ 50.
The interest is $ 50.02 each month, but right now that is the best that I can do. I am really trying to pay more right now, but again, I am not able to.
This year I plan on paying more.

I have said to other posters, you can only do what you can. If you have no income, you can't pay.

I would just contact the collections and tell them your situation.

Good luck


Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 07/January/2005 at 9:26am

calg

like i said on another post, try and see if you can get the loan in collections recalled to your original lender.  start there.  plead your case, you may get results, you may not.  you may have to come up with a few payments, interest, fees/service charges etc before they can recall the loan and you can always resubmit your IR application.

unfortunately, there are not many options available to those of us who genuinely want to pay but cannot.  if you are still denied you can try appealing to governmnet bodies, directly to the folks at hte CSLP, etc.  the original lender is the best place to start, however, since they screwed your IR app in the first place.

good luck



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Posted By: polyhymnia61
Date Posted: 07/January/2005 at 11:14am

$50,000 for a new teacher? Wow...it's only about $35,000 to $40,000 in Ontario, depending on your level of education...

Please don't panic...take care of yourself first...

Poly



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Posted By: nago
Date Posted: 15/January/2005 at 6:21pm
I dont panic my psych degree is totally useless

cant do much if you have a criminal record like me




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Posted By: Ferren
Date Posted: 16/January/2005 at 8:09pm
I thought you were pardoned??


Posted By: uptomyneck
Date Posted: 17/January/2005 at 8:13pm

Hi everyone, I am new on this post and I hope I can get some help...I have been out of college since '94 and although I did pay a large portion of the loan off, and have paperwork to prove it, I got a call from CSL about 2 years ago. After all the money I paid back, thought I was in the clear. A bomb dropped on me when the guy on the phone said "oh, that was your Ontario SL"; this is CSL...all I can say is that my heart skipped a few beats as my brain went into a tailspin about how to break the news to my husband. Well that never happened. He does'nt know to this day. I remember receiving only about 6K for the entire 4 semesters of my college program. Don't understand how, I could have paid off in one shot: $3800.00, and made payments until I couldn't afford it anymore due to some unforseen events which I will not mention now. The payments I made were over three years at 145.00 a month, and, when I quit paying because I couldn't anymore, the loan sharks left us alone for a couple of years. Then, they came calling again around 2 years ago, saying that I owed them another 2K. So I paid up the entire amount to CBL (or whatsernames) and got a letter releasing me from that debt. When I checked my Equifax credit report (online - paid 15.00) it did say thankfully, that it was settled. A few months later, in Jan '03, I was hit with this crap about CSL...so in the meantime, my husband and I purchased a home and my name is on it as well as his. My concerns are this. If there really was a loan repayment issue (and not an error as many have posted on this site), and I buy a house where I am plainly seen as part owner, how long would it take for the sharks to find out or would they? If they did, would they put a lein on the house if payment was not rendered immediately? How would the lein thing work, and would they not have to produce paperwork proving my default loan?? I dont' have any papers but the ones that I do have plainly read (and filled out with the loan officer) what I describe in this post along with my loan checks, and they certainly do not amount to anywhere near that amount! The one of the papers is for the Canada Loan and the other is for the Ontario loan...so I don't get it. I'm afraid to call or write or email...Can anyone help me?? I don't want to upset my husband if I can resolve this on my own. He also believes that this is ancient history... I appreciate any help from anyone!



Posted By: nago
Date Posted: 30/January/2005 at 10:37pm
how bout for people like me who will never make more than minimum wage ?

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Posted By: nago
Date Posted: 30/January/2005 at 10:39pm
oh pardon has no effect when there are no jobs--psych/crim is totally useless fields

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Posted By: Rura
Date Posted: 31/January/2005 at 1:28pm

Huner once wrote: "They refused my payment of $ 25 that I had offered them in 1999, so they got nothing.
Finally it is 2004, and I am making payments of $ 50 to HRDC for their portion of it".

Hunter! How did you manage your account has been transferred back to the creditor?

I was successful last year when the bank took my account back from CA. That time they admitted that it was done by error. Now my account with another CA. This time situation worth: a) there is no evidence in writing form the bank; b) I am not working. However, I would like and I think I can pay $40-50 monthly to the Bank.



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Posted By: too_much
Date Posted: 22/February/2005 at 9:17am

I'm not sure who acually reads this but I was hoping
it could be directed to the appropriate person. I was
studying at an art school for
three years and also a private digital art school in
Burnaby. I have bi-polar disorder and schizophrenia
and my illness has become worse and I am unable to
finish school or live outside the care of friends and
family. I am not a mean, violent or an aggresssive
stereotype of being mentally ill. But I certainly
don't go through a regular day. I have been unable to
keep my employment and now I have alot of student dept
and consumer dept from trying to get ahead. I'm now at
a point where I have no means of even making minimum
payments on my credit card. I have no idea how to go
about these things and found your web board in hopes
of some answers. I would like to consolidate my
student debt(which I beleive is about 40,ooo) A 1000
debt on department store card and 7000 on a credit
card. I don't have anyway of even supporting myself at
the moment...I was hoping to get all my debt in one
place and at a lower amount and see what to do from
there...if that is still too much to handle I may have
to declare bankrupcy?.......I've no idea what to
expect..I'm homless..I just go to whoever will offer
me a bed(friends/family)..But I will have to find my
own place and apply for disability because of my
illness...What is going to happen now..Do the police
show up at your door and take away all your things once I am able to live
somewhere?

please let me know..who can I ask for help?


Posted By: Blue.
Date Posted: 22/February/2005 at 9:45am

You can ask Johnny for help -- http://www.cfwgroup.ca - www.cfwgroup.ca . Visit the Advocates section of this site, and you'll find a ton of people who have been helped by Johnny's expertise with student loan nightmares.

The first step is to contact whoever holds your loans and advise them of your disability. There is a message forum here specifically for disabilities.

Unfortunately, even if you declare bankruptcy, your student loans are not included. So you need to find a way to deal with those...the sooner, the better.

 



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Posted By: polyhymnia61
Date Posted: 22/February/2005 at 11:35am

too_much...Please call Johnny. It may cost a bit, but in the long run, it won't cost as much as not calling him at all. He WILL empower you...

As I have friends who are bipolar, I have to say that I am so glad you reached out...It's so tempting to try and handle things yourself, especially since the meds seems to take away as much of your quality of life as they add...It is a BUGGER of a disease I wouldn't wish on anybody.

You are in a supportive community here, so please keep us in the loop?

Poly



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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 22/February/2005 at 11:54am

too_much

have you tried applying for disability benefits ?  its a pain in the rear and takes forever but it will help get you on your feet and once you are in you can try to go about getting your loans forgiven.  please please check the disability claims help forum, or email me privately and i will try my best to help you sort through the mess ( i'm experiencing major health problems adn have been sifting through disability info for months so i might be able to help).  contacting johnny at cfw is also a good step - he is very knowledgeable in many many areas.

hang in there, you're in the right place for help.



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Posted By: Ferren
Date Posted: 22/February/2005 at 9:28pm

Too much,

You need help and guidance. I think what you need to focus on right now is reducing the stress and worry associated with your debt. I believe it would be wise to contact those you owe money to or have someone acting on your behalf call them to advise of your situation. It may or may not do any good but at least you can feel better about laying it out in the open. Perhaps they can suspend payments temporarily until you find work. Your circumstances do not warrant a consolidation loan as you would not qualify based on your lack of income.



Posted By: Ferren
Date Posted: 22/February/2005 at 11:52pm

I'm glad you took the time for a long post to Too Much Watchdog. I can sense his anguish and didn't feel happy with my short reply. You filled in what he really needs to hear I think.

 



Posted By: SolveStudentDebt
Date Posted: 23/February/2005 at 5:08am

 

 And what was that?

 



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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 23/February/2005 at 10:20am
i hate it when i miss something ...

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Posted By: CARGO1
Date Posted: 23/February/2005 at 11:32am

hey mom,

i hate it too! did a post disappear?

Troy



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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 23/February/2005 at 5:54pm

apparently it did, troy

though we are probably better off not knowing what was said...sheesh i wish this grammar school mentality of name calling and writing one's name in the snow would get over with already.  maybe its another full moon ?



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Posted By: Ferren
Date Posted: 23/February/2005 at 7:09pm

I will repost half of what watchdog said as the other half... well it implies watching for profit motive etc towards certain members of this site if ya know what I mean.

Too Much:

Since nobody addressed a question that obviously worries you, let me say this: the police will not come for your stuff. Not now and not when you are on your feet and settled.

So please don't worry about that. This is purely a civil matter, not a criminal one. The police will never be involved. Please don't let the worries overwhelm you, okay?

Read through this forum and do a little homework on the laws regarding debt collection in your province; once you know what the collectors can and can't do, you'll feel a little better able to deal with them. The fact is that you cannot pay them what they demand. All the names they call you, the fear they instill and the guilt they lay on you can't change that, so don't let it keep you tied in knots.

Take Ferren's advice.

Read the quote on Blue's signature line.

You have other things that should be preoccupying you. So relax. Remind yourself that you are not evil or lazy or stupid or negligent.... You are the victim here and you deserve compassion, not abuse.



Posted By: CARGO1
Date Posted: 23/February/2005 at 9:45pm
thanks ferren

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Posted By: SolveStudentDebt
Date Posted: 24/February/2005 at 3:54am

 

 Yes, I recall thatposting. The part you left out wass the part where the individual was attacking me.

 



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Posted By: polyhymnia61
Date Posted: 24/February/2005 at 8:05am

Hey, Ferren! No fair!

How come you get to access other people's deleted posts and I can't?????

I always thought Mark liked ME best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Pouting Poly



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Posted By: Ferren
Date Posted: 24/February/2005 at 5:01pm

Heh, no trick to it at all Poly. Don't worry I am sure you are still Mark's favorite. I was on that forum typing my reply just when the post was deleted. I actually received it in my email. Kind of strange to see the post gone just after I replied tho. I am fairly certain it was Islander from the tone and style. Here is the other half - I have no opinion one way or another on it's content:

By Watchdog

...Do not fall into the trap of paying someone to "empower" you or to "remove toxicity" from your life unless you are sure of what you are getting into. Make sure that you have absolute confidence that the course of action recommended is in YOUR best interest and not intended just to line the pockets of a bill collector with a new scam.

Most of the people on this site seem to be good people and I suspect they are not here to take advantage of your vulnerable state. Look around at the posts, determine who is here because they make a killing and who is here without profit as a motive.

And as far as testimonials go, I'd take them all with a grain of salt. Remember whose site it is, who sponsors it and how easy it is for a site administrator to add usernames to the memberlist and write his own testimonials. And to remove anything less than flattering.

I'm not saying that it happens here, but DO ask yourself what motivates the people here. The only thing you can do wrong at this point is to be naive and let someone take advantage of you.

Good luck. We're here to help. Free. Most of us, anyway....



Posted By: kwelmm
Date Posted: 24/February/2005 at 5:04pm
Thanks, Ferren.


Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 24/February/2005 at 5:18pm
ditto ferren

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Posted By: Ferren
Date Posted: 24/February/2005 at 8:55pm
Actually I do have an opinion on second thought... I don't believe the second half of the post was very contructive. If I were a newcomer in need of help I might even find myself becoming rather confused by it. No offense to the author. However the first part was very supportive to too much and was welcome.


Posted By: Ferren
Date Posted: 24/February/2005 at 8:59pm

et tu? you say?

I once referred someone with a problem to John and they were very pleased with his advice whatever it was.

 




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