will i qualify for debt reduction?
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Topic: will i qualify for debt reduction?
Posted By: worldfamous
Subject: will i qualify for debt reduction?
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 5:49am
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I last applied for a student loan in 1998 for a 2 year course. I finished school in april of 2000 and started paying back the loan in November of 2000.
I am currently going back to school, but am paying for the tuition myself.
I was wondering if i would qualify for debt reduction in 2005?
One of the stipulations state that
- five years has passed since you last attended a post-secondary institution;
Does this apply even thought im paying for the schooling myself and am not using a student loan?
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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 8:05am
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im guessing the bank will try and screw you here, famous, and make you wait five years form when you finish your current course. try asking your lender, though, or whoever holds your original loan.
let us know how it goes.
anyone else have a definitive answer for this one ?
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Posted By: kwelmm
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 8:51am
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What is this debt reduction???? Does it apply if your loans have gone to collections?
Where was I when all this came around? 
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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 9:57am
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you cant apply for debt reduction if you are in collections
makes no sense i know, but yet another example of how the government screws over the people who need help the most
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Posted By: kwelmm
Date Posted: 30/November/2004 at 12:32pm
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Oh , oh well...not quick enough to be in the know..timing is everything!!!
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Posted By: Pigeon
Date Posted: 01/December/2004 at 4:38am
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Here's a question sports fans....If you're OSL is sent back to the government by the CA and you are paying the government monthly, are you then eligible for debt reduction?
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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 01/December/2004 at 7:09am
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To be considered for this program you must meet the following eligibility requirements:
- You have signed a consolidated loan agreement for your Ontario Student Loan(s).
- You currently reside in Canada. For purposes of this application, individuals who are Canadian Military personnel stationed abroad and individuals participating in an international internship program are considered to be residing in Canada.
- You have exhausted all interest relief assistance available from the Government of Ontario.
- You are NOT in default on your Ontario Student Loan(s). If you are in default on your Canada Student Loan(s) and/or other provincial student loans, you may continue to be eligible.
- You are no longer a full-time student for at least 60 months before applying for this program.
- You have waited one year before applying for a second or a third debt reduction in repayment from the Government of Ontario.
- You have not already received three payments through the Ontario Debt Reduction in Repayment program.
- You are not restricted from receiving OSAP assistance.
- You are not considered ineligible for an Ontario DRR payment (e.g., due to misrepresentation or conviction of a criminal offence relating to a student loan(s).
- Your total monthly student loan payments are greater than the monthly payment amount in the http://osap.gov.on.ca/eng/PDF/0405/Gross%20Income%20Table.pdf - DRR Monthly Income Table corresponding with your family size and gross monthly family income.
If you are in receipt of federal Debt Reduction in Repayment, it does not effect your eligibility for consideration under the Ontario Debt Reduction in Repayment.
from http://osap.gov.on.ca/eng/not_secure/DRR.htm#Eligibility%20and%20Conditions - http://osap.gov.on.ca/eng/not_secure/DRR.htm#Eligibility%20a nd%20Conditions
so i guess that would be a big NO
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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 01/December/2004 at 7:10am
unless you can get your loan back to good standing with the government.
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Posted By: CELYN
Date Posted: 01/December/2004 at 3:31pm
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Hi,
RE: Ontario Debt Reduction in Repayment
Eligibility: "You have exhausted all interest relief assistance available from the Government of Ontario."
Does anyone here know if this means 30 months of interest relief or 54 months? Thanks.
The reason I ask is because I've exhausted 54 months of CSL interest relief so it's not a problem since CSL requires 30 months exhaustion. This statement seems to suggest 54 because it mentions "all interest relief available from Government of Ontario."
I've only used 53 months of OSL interest relief. Strange because my applications were always in sync with my CSL interest relief. Then one day the government changed my approval period and I'm one month off. I just let it go and applied for 6 months each after that. It threw off my CSL and OSL applications. After this change, I had to call twice for applications and also pre-screened twice. One month for CSL and the next month for OSL. It sure was a pain in the neck!
If it's 54 months and I'm short 1 month could I appeal you think? If so how do I do it?
BTW, I think it means 30 months. I hope it doesn't mean 54 months. If someone knows please reply as this is giving me a headache.
celyn
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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 01/December/2004 at 4:59pm
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celyn
i had to go the full 54 months before they would even let me apply for DRR. i did ask at 30 months and was told that it wasnt available to me. from above...
You are no longer a full-time student for at least 60 months before applying for this program.
you could appeal it, though. you never know.
kep us posted, though.
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Posted By: CELYN
Date Posted: 01/December/2004 at 5:28pm
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momof2,
I've been out of school for at least 5 years. The question is whether you need to use up all 30 months or is it 54 months of interest relief.
They have 2 interest relief as you know. The regular 30 months of interest relief and the extended interest relief of 24 months.
I'll call CIBC National Student Centre but last I spoke with them they haven't got the guidelines regarding Ontario debt reduction.
It's very frustrating with all these govt. rules.
celyn
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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 02/December/2004 at 1:38am
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celyn
you can print the app from the OSAP website, but it does say to speak to your original lender if you have any q's. hope you can get a break on this one.
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Posted By: administrator
Date Posted: 02/December/2004 at 4:13am
It would be 54 months of interest relief. Ontario offers 54 weeks therefore you must use up the 54 weeks before you can get Debt Reduction...
And you can not go to school during the 5 years, part-time or full-time, even if you are paying for it yourself. Stupid rule!
Mark
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Posted By: CELYN
Date Posted: 02/December/2004 at 3:00pm
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Thanks for the replies. I'll call and see what they can do regarding my 53 months of interest relief.
celyn
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Posted By: CELYN
Date Posted: 02/December/2004 at 3:21pm
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admininistrator,
You made a typo - it's 54 months not 54 weeks.
Anyway, the reason I'm confused is about the interest relief is because CSL also offers 54 months, same as OSL. However, the letter regarding debt reduction I was sent by my financial institution stated at least 30 months of CSL interest relief must be used in order to apply for interest relief.
Hence I assume the OSL would be the same. Although a total of 54 is available, only a minimum of 30 months is required.
Also, I believe they have changed the rules to allow people to use 30 months of interest relief beyond the 5 year after leaving school. Perhaps they meant people have to use all 30 months to qualify.
Their usage of "all interest relief" might mean the first 30 months. They do have a different term for the other 24 months which is "extended interest relief."
Again, thanks to all who replied. I'll call and find out and try to sort out this mess with my 53 months of interest relief.
celyn
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Posted By: CELYN
Date Posted: 02/December/2004 at 4:19pm
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I forgot to include these:
- from the OSAP and other websites all mentioned interest relief's maximum period is 30 months. Only if you are still unable to pay then you apply for extended interest relief (within 5 years of leaving school.) So I'm thinking they mean it's 30 months?
- I've googled and found out some websites mentioning the CSL and OSL are interest relief and repayment are being integrated and basically the guidelines will be similar, with a few exceptions.
I'll be back to update you all whether it's 30 months or not.
P.S. The rule about resetting the clock if you go back to school sucks. I don't see why the clock should be reset since you are not getting more student loans to go back to school. Makes
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Posted By: CELYN
Date Posted: 02/December/2004 at 4:20pm
Posted By: CELYN
Date Posted: 03/December/2004 at 2:25pm
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I spoke with the person in charge of debt reduction at my financial institute and was told it looks I would qualify if I have used up 53 months, and to print application from website and send it in.
It seems they still don't have the guidelines for Ontario Debt Reduction from the government.
celyn
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Posted By: nago
Date Posted: 06/December/2004 at 4:46pm
nope u didnt exhaust interest relife and bridgin'
but it doesnt say anything about being a student as a req for interest relief
so i assume you would have to apply and exhaust 30 months ir and then 24 more months bridging
As long as you apply for and exhausted the 54 months then i would assume so
But you raise an important question can u get ir while in school on previous loans?
and if so
can u apply for ddr?
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Posted By: worldfamous
Date Posted: 06/December/2004 at 4:55pm
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I wrote the student loans people and this was they're response.
Good morning.
To qualify for Debt Reduction you must be in receipt of student loan funding from at least August 2002 onward. Based on the information provided in your e-mail you do not meet the criteria.
Please contact our office should you have any further questions.
(refer back to the first message in this thread)
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Posted By: nago
Date Posted: 06/December/2004 at 5:00pm
In BC the reqs for ir are that you cant be a full time student
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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 07/December/2004 at 3:39am
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nago, thats only one of the req's...
Eligibility Criteria
Effective August 1, 2002, former students will no longer be required to apply for and receive interest relief for their Canada student loans prior to applying for interest relief on their BC student loans.
To receive BC interest relief:
- You must have a family income, before taxes and other deductions, that does not exceed the maximum amount specified for your family.
- You must be repaying your BCSL.
- You must not be in full-time studies.
- You must not be in a six-month post-study period.
- Your BCSL must be in good standing (all portfolios) or you must be able to bring your loan(s) into good standing.**
- You have not received the lifetime maximum of 30 months of interest relief or 54 months of extended interest relief.
- You live in Canada or you are participating in an international internship program.
**Note: If you declare bankruptcy after May 11, 2004, you can still apply for and receive BC interest relief provided you meet all other eligibility criteria.
visit http://www.aved.gov.bc.ca/studentservices/student/finish/debt_red/bc_int.htm - www.aved.gov.bc.ca/studentservices/student/finish/debt_red/b c_int.htm for the rest of the information and links for both bc and federal interest relief and debt reducitoin information.
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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 07/December/2004 at 3:48am
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world
that doesnt sound quite right. is that all they said ?? was this from the NSLSC or direct from yor original lender ??
my loans CSL and OSL were from 96-99 and they let me apply.
more info please !!!
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Posted By: worldfamous
Date Posted: 07/December/2004 at 5:18am
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Thats all they said. It came from the NSLSC.
I am from Newfoundland. Not sure if that will make any difference.
Client Services & Counselling Student Financial Services Division Department of Education P.O. Box 8700 St. John's, NF A1B 4J6 Ph: (709)729-5849 Toll-free: 1-888-657-0800 Fax: (709)729-2298
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Posted By: SolveStudentDebt
Date Posted: 07/December/2004 at 5:28am
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World,
Write to me privately. I will give you the number of an associate of mine who may be able to help at the NFLND gov.
Johnny
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Posted By: worldfamous
Date Posted: 04/March/2005 at 5:25pm
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-------------------origninal post---------------------------
I last applied for a student loan in 1998 for a 2 year course. I finished school in april of 2000 and started paying back the loan in November of 2000.
I am currently going back to school, but am paying for the tuition myself.
I was wondering if i would qualify for debt reduction in 2005?
One of the stipulations state that
- five years has passed since you last attended a post-secondary institution;
Does this apply even thought im paying for the schooling myself and am not using a student loan?
-------------------origninal post---------------------------
I was just reading some of the posts, and then it hit me. I was receiving interest relief for the first few months i was attending school, until i discovered the schedule2 form.
So if the government would give me IR while attending school, I should quality for debt reduction when my IR runs out. Can anybody verify this?
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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 05/March/2005 at 3:15am
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not necessarily...
i received the max for IR but was denied debt reduction ( which is in the process of being appealed). depends on your income...
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Posted By: johnnycrunch
Date Posted: 05/March/2005 at 11:22am
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This is sooo depressing, I graduated in 1996, and where i am from
in Nova Scotia had a very high unemployment rate, so I thought I'd go
to asia for a couple of years to teach english and get that dam thing
payed off, ($originally owed 24000), at the time my loan was with
scotia bank, well things don't alway go as planned so (long esl horrorr
story), as a result my loan went to collections as i couldn't pay
anything. I sent money whenever i could to the collection agency. I
returned to canada in 1999, moved to vancouver to find out i had cancer
(still in remission!) in 2000 applied to have my loan recoverd from the
collection agency and for debt reduction. I got good and bad news they
called my debt from the CA, but told me because i had a job no debt
reduction would occur, and interest continued to build during my cancer
treatments, ironically i had just gotten a job with the federal gov't
when this happened. 9 years later i am still owing $18000, this
is so stressful, I want to buy a home start a family, but this is
ridiculous, i am really trying to take care of this, but i see no end
in sight!!! what the heck did i go to school for? any
suggestions? should i see my mp?
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Posted By: kwelmm
Date Posted: 05/March/2005 at 1:24pm
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Johnnycrunch....you have done very well to knock off $6000 of your debt...that is great...do not give up....there is and end to all of this!! You may not see the end right now...in time my friend you will 
That is awesome that you are in remission! Take care of yourself first and foremost....always...our health should be priority!!
Nice to have you around....keep coming back!!
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Posted By: johnnycrunch
Date Posted: 06/March/2005 at 10:13am
thanks kwelmm, its nice to see i am not alone in this maze of bureacracy! it just gets soo frustrating, and disheartening
It almost seems like a research project to find all the programs avail
for people looking for help, sad in a way , the government should be
more proactive in this area, in my opinioin...
i wonder if momof, can provide any details of appealing a
negative debt reduction aplication, and if there is a time frame
involved? (i.e my decision occurred in 2000)
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Posted By: kwelmm
Date Posted: 06/March/2005 at 10:28am
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You could always email her....she would not mind...in fact she would probably ask you to herself if she knew you had questions for her. Check her profile...her email addy should be in there....
And....definitely you are not alone.....we are in the struggle together....and yes it is a maze of bureacracy!
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Posted By: momof2
Date Posted: 06/March/2005 at 12:52pm
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johnnycrunch
i'm not sure if there is any time limit for appealing your DRR decision. mine was denied last year. i phoned CSLP directly once when i was originally denied and was told no, there was no recourse. i called again maybe 6 months later and was told sure i could appeal, send the info in and they'd take a look at it. sorry i don't really have more info. you can include receipts for expenses ( like medical, funeral, home repairs, etc ) to show how seriously strapped for cash you are ( too bad they don't consier it for your original app, all they want then is proof of family income).
if you have more questions i can try and answer them, i'm usually on here a few times a day...i still haven't hear anything from my appeal, so i have no idea if these things get overturned or what. my problem is i'm stubborn so i'll keep trying - i have nothing better to do being unemployed and unable to work...
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