This website is a testimony to the problems Canadian Student Loan borrowers experienced from approximately 1996 to 2008 and until their loans were paid off.

The privatization of the Student Loans system by the Chretien and Martin Liberal governments broke the system and defaulted thousands of borrowers who were trying to pay their loans. There were even stories of suicide due to the harassment of borrowers.

Read the report that I prepared back in 2007 here. Canada Student Loans-The Need for Change Fortunately the new Conservative government at the time revamped the program and fixed the system for new borrowers, but borrowers under the previous program were left with ruined credit and continued harassment from debt collectors.

I call on the Canadian Government to apologize to the borrowers affected by this fiasco and make amends.

Unfortunately the Liberal government is again clobbering the Education system with their changes to International Student Visas. Yes, there's a problem, but instead of a well thought out plan, they have pulled the emergency brake on the train causing a derailment. This has introduced unprecedented instability for both private and public education institutions who serve both international and local students.

Universities have been forced to cancel programs and layoff hundreds if not thousands of full-time and contract instructors.

Again, the Liberal government has messed up the education environment.


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    Posted: 12/March/2008 at 3:16pm
Hi to everyone on here.  I've been reading many posts and can empathize.  Thank you to whoever started this forum, to give us a place to collect information with respect and peace, and to support one another.  That is invaluable.

My story....I went to school for 7 years, tried to get a double degree, and failed to complete my last year, January 2001 was my last issued osap installment.  I left school due to health issues.  I had a nervous breakdown, saw a psychiatrist who gave me a diagnosis of major recurrent depression and that I had an 80% chance of relapse, and that I needed to be on antidepressants for the rest of my life.   It took me a year to fully recover from that episode, in which I moved back home.  I come from a northern town with no full degree program at the university in my town for what I was studying.  So to finish would mean moving 600 miles back to southern Ontario.  Afterwards I wasn't even able to open a book and read for about 2 years.  I was soooo burned out.  That's about when the student loans people started calling me.  I think at that time my loans were about $60,000.  They wanted a $650 monthly payment.  My mother paid a couple of months for me so that I could qualify for interest relief.  At that time I also signed over my mother as my "advocate", due to the fact that I could not handle talking to them anymore, they were in my eyes very abusive and belligerent and didn't care about my circumstance.  For my sanity's sake, and my healing, I did that.  So for a few times, probably a year and a half we submitted the interest relief forms.   Then my mother got behind on it too, forgot to send the paperwork in on time, and it defaulted me again, at which point I lost the ability to care anymore, the situation felt so hopeless.  I never spoke with them again.  I've gotten a private number because the collectors would call like 6 times a day, 6 days a week.  I have been unable to hold down steady employment, so they have never garnished my wages.  I also currently am a single mother of 2 children, one of which is in the process of being diagnosed with autism.  Much of my time is taken up with working with him.  I have not been employed for 4 years now, since I had him.   Last year they began taking my income tax return.  I wonder how they can do that?  We live well below the poverty line, and also reside in Housing as well.  My yearly income is $15,000.
I've lost hope as to ever getting out of this situation.  And I think having this debt over my head makes the depression that much worse.

I really want to just claim bankruptcy and be able to start over again.  But from what I'm reading, that sometimes doesn't even work.  There is no way in hell I'll ever be able to pay this debt unless I win the lottery.

Any suggestions?  Would bankruptcy be a viable solution given my situation?
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Bloodsuckers aren't they?  My loans are about the same as yours and even if you were able to make the payments of $650 or so a month - most of that would be interest anyways.  Which is even more depressing...

You'll probably have to contact Johnny for advice.  I've read posts similiar to yours and that's usually the way to go. 

There's also the Coalition for Student Loan Fairness petition to sign - and you could go to the media with your story....

 
There must be some kind of hardship thing available...
 
Hang in there! 
 
 
 
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Hi... I have been diagnosed with the same as you and am on meds for the rest of my life too... It took me two years to get past the point of playing mind numbing games on my computer, and actually play one that took some brain power. I have only just recovered enough now that I think I might actually want to go to work again... some day....
Student loans takes my income tax... and my gst... and if I had child tax credit, then I swear they would take that too! But, that is illegal. I am trying to find out how to get my student loans discharged due to disability... as I find out, I will post my findings here, for you too. I can totally empathize with your issues.... And student loan collectors once told me that I am worth nothing more then welfare material.... Good Luck... and hang in there!
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If you have already declared bankruptcy, and you have used up all of your interest relief and debt reduction options within the system then just go back to your  bankruptcy trustee or a lawyer who specializes in bankruptcies and apply to the court to get your student loan included in the bankruptcy. Will be an additional fee, but it is worth it to get the collectors off your butt.
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Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:

If you have already declared bankruptcy, and you have used up all of your interest relief and debt reduction options within the system then just go back to your  bankruptcy trustee or a lawyer who specializes in bankruptcies and apply to the court to get your student loan included in the bankruptcy. Will be an additional fee, but it is worth it to get the collectors off your butt.


i am agree with you "your  bankruptcy trustee or a lawyer who specializes in bankruptcies and apply to the court to get your student loan included in the bankruptcy".
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Originally posted by ClaudiaPipkens ClaudiaPipkens wrote:

Originally posted by Angela Angela wrote:

If you have already declared bankruptcy, and you have used up all of your interest relief and debt reduction options within the system then just go back to your  bankruptcy trustee or a lawyer who specializes in bankruptcies and apply to the court to get your student loan included in the bankruptcy. Will be an additional fee, but it is worth it to get the collectors off your butt.


i am agree with you "your  bankruptcy trustee or a lawyer who specializes in bankruptcies and apply to the court to get your student loan included in the bankruptcy".
 
Are you saying that if I was discharged from bankruptcy several years ago (3 i think) but was unable to include my student loans in that bankruptcy, that I may now be able to have the SL's retroactively included into the original bankruptcy?  (Yes, I am now seven years past my grad date).  This would be a surprise, and a godsend, as I am considering a 'second' bankruptcy at this point. Please explain this further, as I have never heard of this route before.
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Hi again, after reading nearly every post on this site I think I have answered my own question from above ...I think.  The only question I can't seem to clarify (...lot's of contradictions here, so be discerning about what you read people) is this:
 
What's up with the 7 versus 10 year rule on inclusion with bankruptcy.  Is it 'on the books' now as 7 years ...or is it still at limbo and 'passed but not implemented' meaning that 10 years is still the legal rule.
 
As of this date, currently May 2009, is it actually 7 now in practice ...or is it still 10 (in actual practice) ???
 
I've seen proof of 10 years in older posts, and lot's of current posts 'referring' to 7 but with no actual success stories to back it up ...so this apsect is very unclear.
 
To summarize, as of today (May 2009) is it still at 10 years, or is it finally in the rules and in practice as 7 years past studies (regarding SL's inclusion into bankruptcy).
 
If someone knows the FACT about this issue, please post here and let us all know.
 
P.S. This site is amazing and very, very helpful.  It is not often I find myself simultaneously calmed AND enraged all at the same time.  It's been very enlightening to learn about my rights ...but also very depressing to learn about the tyranny.  God help us all to endure through the insanity of the human condition.
 
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It is now law... its 7 years and a possible hardship hearing after 5.  Best bet is to talk to your original bankruptcy trustee...

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