This website is a testimony to the problems Canadian Student Loan borrowers experienced from approximately 1996 to 2008 and until their loans were paid off.

The privatization of the Student Loans system by the Chretien and Martin Liberal governments broke the system and defaulted thousands of borrowers who were trying to pay their loans. There were even stories of suicide due to the harassment of borrowers.

Read the report that I prepared back in 2007 here. Canada Student Loans-The Need for Change Fortunately the new Conservative government at the time revamped the program and fixed the system for new borrowers, but borrowers under the previous program were left with ruined credit and continued harassment from debt collectors.

I call on the Canadian Government to apologize to the borrowers affected by this fiasco and make amends.

Unfortunately the Liberal government is again clobbering the Education system with their changes to International Student Visas. Yes, there's a problem, but instead of a well thought out plan, they have pulled the emergency brake on the train causing a derailment. This has introduced unprecedented instability for both private and public education institutions who serve both international and local students.

Universities have been forced to cancel programs and layoff hundreds if not thousands of full-time and contract instructors.

Again, the Liberal government has messed up the education environment.


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    Posted: 14/August/2003 at 10:06am
July 16, 2003

Mitch Haws
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Equifax Inc.

Dear Sir,

I am writing to request your immediate assistance in dealing with incorrect information being reported by banks regarding student loans.

It has been long known that the banks often misplace or lose the interest relief and interest free forms that enable students to continue in school. As a result, students who do not need to be making payments are being recorded as being in default and having their credit ratings destroyed by this incorrect and false information.

Numerous cases of misreporting due to bank errors have been reported on our website at CanadaStudentDebt.ca.

Until the banks resolve this problem, you should refrain from including student loan reports from CIBC, Royal Bank, and Scotiabank as it is clearly known to be misleading, incorrect and in error.

If you continue to include this incorrect information, you will be liable for all damages to individuals as a result of this systemic problem.

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Mark O'Meara
CanadaStudentDebt.ca
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And my response to equifax...

Dear Mr Cleary

Thank you for your response. I am disappointed with your suggestion that there is no systemic problem with student loan defaulting. HRDC's own study shows otherwise.

>From the 1997 evaluation of the CSLP program at http://www11.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca/pls/edd/CSL_55032.htm

    * 52% of respondents found out they were considered to have defaulted on their Canada Student Loan only at the time they were contacted by a collection agency;
    * almost one third (29%) were completely surprised that they were considered to have defaulted;
    * 52% of respondents disagreed or strongly disagreed with the statement that the financial institution was willing to be flexible; and,
    * only 34.5% of respondents had knowledge of the availability of Interest Relief.

With the exception of the last point regarding interest relief, it appears nothing has changed since this survey was done in 1997.

Your response does not indicate that any study or evaluation took place, ie interviews of clients to determine the level of the problem, therefore your conclusions are statistically unsound and lack any basis in research methods. If you have such study data then please share it with us. HRDC's study was a professionally prepared third party report sampling defaulters from across the country. It showed that there clearly is a problem with 29% of defaulters being shocked to find that they were in default!

Of course CIBC/Edulinx would deny that there are systemic problems. Thats like asking an alcoholic if he or she has a drinking problem. It is in the vested interest of the financial institution to provide a biased answer. Perhaps they aren't even aware of their own problems. If you want to find out if there is a problem then please ask the right group of people. Simply go to Canadastudentdebt.ca and see the problems for yourself or review the sample cases provided.

Based on the HRDC study and the considerable number of posts that indicate systemic problems of lost forms and lost interest relief applications, there is no doubt that a problem exists.

In your reply you suggest that CIBC has investigated errors. This is absolutely not correct. Some of our complainants have not had any response. Return calls were promised but never fulfilled. Investigations were promised but not completed. Requests for confirmation of reciept of complaint materials go unanswered.

I trust that you will continue to monitor this situation and provide support to these people who can not obtain help from the financial institutions.

Regards,

Mark O'Meara
Canadastudentdebt.ca

CC:     Canadian Press
            Jake Rose, Senator Moore's office
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 1996 is when C.IB.C destroyed my life! I was in school and I recieved a phone call from the bank (C.I.B.C), saying I had 2 weeks to pay back a previous student loan. I told them I was in school and I filled out the proper documents so I wouldn't have to pay back the loan until I was done school. They said they didn't recieve any documentation and I had to 2 weeks to pay a certain percentage of the loan. 3 days later I borrowed the money and phoned them up to tell them I had the money. They said it didn't matter because they already sent my loan to Collections. I never thought in a million years that they could get away with that.. I phoned the Finance Minister and he said I got screwed and there is nothing I could do about it. I sent C.I.B.C all my information plus I was in school at the time, How the hell can they get away with that????? 
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WHY WOULD EQUIFAX/TRANS UNION DO ANYTHING TO CORRECT THE ERRORS THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION?? THATS LIKE BITING THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU.. THEY ARE ALL IN BED TOGETHER AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE SO.

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This may be old, but from my own experiences with this rigmorole the last poster "CARGO1" is correct.  I had to get a lawyer involved to get my credit record cleaned up.  And please do not get suckered by scammers out there that prey on those of us who are already victimized that say they can clean up your credit.  They can do no more than you can do on your own.

Equifax and TransCanada make their money off of people who apply for credit.  And history shows that people with poorer credit apply more often.  Of course they do, if you fail to get a mortgage with one bank, you will try with another... etc.  This is how I found out that I had no less than 15 mistakes in my credit report, by applying for a mortgage that I got turned down for (even with 25% downpayment).  I had to chase down CIBC for several mistakes in their reporting.  And then for 5 years after that I had to fight with Equifax to get those mistakes taken off my report.  Eventually with the help of a lawyer, I got those mistakes corrected, and the credit agency paid for the lawyer as it was so obvious that they had not been diligent in keeping their databases up-to-date. 

Two lessons for everyone dealing with this sh*t. 

1.  Keep a record of each and every conversation that you have with these scumbags.  Ask for their full name.  I believe that they are required to do so under the new CPA.  Do everything via registered mail, it may cost more, but it will pay in full in the end and often keeps mistakes from occuring in the first place.

2.  Obtain your credit report.  It is free to do and does not hurt your credit rating.  Then dilligently pursue every mistake on the report.  The last I heard, on average 30% of people report 1 or more mistakes in their report.

Good Luck!  And keep up the CIBC boycott.  My mortgage is held by a Credit Union, only slightly higher interest and I feel better doing business with them.

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Me too Mr. Cleary...

I am very sad to hear that others are having the same difficulties when dealing with student loan issues.

As Quoted from Mark O'mearas letter above, "* 52% of respondents found out they were considered to have defaulted on their Canada Student Loan only at the time they were contacted by a collection agency; "

In March 2003 I received a phone call from a "Lady" who said she worked for the Royal Bank. I was confused as to why she would be contacting me and told her as much. She said the Royal Bank was updating general info. I hold no accounts at the Royal Bank. I updated my information and told her that I had moved post graduation for my current position. We then ended the conversation.

Having graduated in March of 2001, I had been paying my student loans monthly....or so I had thought. A week later another "Lady" with the Royal Bank Student Loan Collection phoned to ask me when I would be bringing my outstanding student loans up to date. I asked her what student loan? She told me that there was an outstanding balance of approx. 600.00 in payments and a priciple loan of 13,800.00. I thought it was a hoax. First the woman last week and now this. I didn't beleive her. I told the lady(I have her name written down somewhere) that I am already paying my student loans and had graduated two years prior and that she must have made a mistake. She told me it was possible that there was a mistake and that she would get back to me.

In the meantime I contacted the Royal Bank directly and explained that I thought someone was trying to fraud me but I just wanted to be sure that I had no business of any sort with the Royal Bank. The lady on the other line came back with the shocking info...I have a 13,880.00 student loan plus another for almost $1000.00 and over six hundred in outstanding payments.

How could this have happened? Well it seems that when I left school a mistake was made as to my end date. For some unknown reason my end date had been reported between the school and the bank as one and a half years after my graduation.

After realizing there had been a mistake I did everything I could do on the spot to remedy it. I paid the outstanding payments and the smaller balance($1000.00) almost immediately and resumed normal payments as soon as the were required. I stressed to the bank that I wanted this in no way to affect my credit history as this was a genuine mistake and not my mistake. I was told at the bank that it is my obligation to keep my address current when I move. I told her "Why would I call a bank I am not doing business with to change my home address?"

When I graduated as with many others, I qualified for interest relief, I also had had bursaries and scholarships while attending school so when all was said and done I believed I was paying all my outstanding loans.

After I had complained/told my story to enough people at the Royal Bank. I was assured that there would be no negative information reported to Equifax, that this had been a genuine mixup. I have since had an inquiry done and all my student loans show that I was seriously overdue. I jumped through the hoops for them to bring the payments up to date as soon as I became aware of them and have never defaulted on a payment. That is what I beleive should be reported on my credit history. I believe they owe me a personal letter of apology...as well as taking back that infomation.

As for Equifax...

Exactly what is your phone number Sir, I would sure love to speak with you in six to eight weeks after I receive copy of my credit history and my system reference number and of course the coveted direct dial speak to a live representative number(anybody else tried to speak with this independent third party....WHAT A JOKE)

Sincerely,

Karla A Thurber

Another SHOCKED Student

 

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Hi all,

I got screwed by CIBC who posted false info to my credit report. CIBC admits to this yet, CIBC's own Ombudsman won't do anything.

Consequently, I am going to the Ombudsman for Banking Services and Investments and if they don't give the proper response, off to a lawyer I go. Pretty obvious evidence I have when it is in a letter from CIBC's own Ombudsman that, yes, CIBC posted false information(I5) to my Credit Report while I was on Interest Relief (again in a document supplied by CIBC).

I was starting a business at this time and CIBC blocked me from getting the software I needed to run my business and shut me down for three months while I tried to fix the problems caused by CIBC costing me thousands of dollars that were to be allocated to my business.

In addition, CIBC lied to me, which I have in writing! An agent of CIBC wrote to me saying that when on Interest Relief a student loan customer is not paying their loan as agreed and the government is keeping it current and this will be noted on the student's Credit Bureau Report. Yet when you call CIBC Student Loan Centre the agents of CIBC there state that when a student is on Interest Relief no comments will be posted to your Credit Report. So CIBC which is it? Gee, someone is lying or incompetent or both!

So, I too, am in a terrible position because of CIBC and their indifferent, denying and irresponsible actions! I guess Mr. Cleary hasn't had a student loan and/or just doesn't want to deal with the facts at hand. How many posts do you need to read on this website to get an idea that there ARE systemic problems and that all the companies involved in this mismanagement are responsible for their actions! 

I am fed up with dealing with these large corporations that just brush people off! How can we be responsible for the actions of others? I am not going to sit here and hold CIBC's hand while they make billions so they don't screwup even further, damn it! It is time they get appropriately hung in public for all to see their dirty little secrets. I bet Mr. Cleary a million dollars this doesn't happen to someone with lots of money! And if it does, the organization responds quickly because they know that the consequences are going to come from some expensive lawyer who will take them to the cleaners!

Shame on CIBC, Equifax and others that partipate in this garbage of messing peoples LIVES around!

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