This website is a testimony to the problems Canadian Student Loan borrowers experienced from approximately 1996 to 2008 and until their loans were paid off.

The privatization of the Student Loans system by the Chretien and Martin Liberal governments broke the system and defaulted thousands of borrowers who were trying to pay their loans. There were even stories of suicide due to the harassment of borrowers.

Read the report that I prepared back in 2007 here. Canada Student Loans-The Need for Change Fortunately the new Conservative government at the time revamped the program and fixed the system for new borrowers, but borrowers under the previous program were left with ruined credit and continued harassment from debt collectors.

I call on the Canadian Government to apologize to the borrowers affected by this fiasco and make amends.

Unfortunately the Liberal government is again clobbering the Education system with their changes to International Student Visas. Yes, there's a problem, but instead of a well thought out plan, they have pulled the emergency brake on the train causing a derailment. This has introduced unprecedented instability for both private and public education institutions who serve both international and local students.

Universities have been forced to cancel programs and layoff hundreds if not thousands of full-time and contract instructors.

Again, the Liberal government has messed up the education environment.


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    Posted: 28/May/2004 at 7:53am

Hello, all ! My name is Kristie. I live in Alberta with my husband and son. I need some adive on what I should do. There's a little bit of history  so let me explain.......

I took out a provincial and federal student loan thru the RBC back in 1998. I finished school and had an impossible time finding a job in my field locally. I was a 20 year old single mother of a two year old at that time and we didn't have enough money to relocate to where the jobs really were. I wasn't able to start making payments for the longest time; there was just never enough money. So I never dealt with it. Period. This was the one area of my life that I was really irresponsible with. Two years ago almost to the month, I started recieving calls from to CA from Collectcorp out in Ontario or wherever those jerks are. I have never been thru anything like that in my life. I think as well, I just didn't have the know how in dealing with these guys. They'd phone back to back within minutes of each other several times a day. Phoning me at work 7 X in one day almost got me fired. I was chambermaiding for $6.50/hr., what was I supposed to be able to give them? My husband and I weren't married yet and they were threatening and accosting him as well. It goes on, as you all know, but I have never been thru that. I should've called someone for some advice at that point but I still didn't have the smarts to deal with it strongly and intelligently. I was terrorized into sending them 24 post dated cheques, 12 for one amount, 12 for another, each set of cheques covering one of the two loans for the next year. The money was coming out of the Child Tax Benefit I was getting for my son and I hated the idea of doing that, but I was told I'd have no choice. They threated court, garishing wages, seizing our meagre bank account, and even jail. As I state again... I had never been thru this before, I didn't know that these things weren't ok and often illegal. I had never been threatened or harrassed before. It still amazes me now looking back how much you-know-what I took from those guys. I didn't know I could say, "No! I can't afford to pay you guys right now, or I'll put my family into financial hardship. What about that do you not understand?" As you can already tell I am still angry and bitter about what happened there.

I paid them for two months and things were getting harder and harder. I finally called one of my older more knowledgable pals about this and she gave me so much trouble for sending them all those cheques. I told her all that had happened, that we couldn't afford it. She told me to cancel all the cheques. So I did. I was getting $200/mos. from the CTB, and I had split it up between the two. You see, the very first time they called was at 6:15am on a  Sunday moring. It was a man first, Mr. Quash or Qualsh ? Demanding the full $16,000. I was so scared, he was screaming at me where's is the money? Whose your lawyer? Where do you work? I told him I couldn't afford it, I was weeping like a freakin' baby. This is so embarassing to even talk about now. I told him the only little bit I had was the CTB, but it was for my son. This man went ballistic. Never in my life. I just cried. I told him I would send it to him as soon as I got it. I hung up the phone, crawled back into bed with my then fiance (now husband) and just bawled. Like he keeps telling me now, " What did you think ? That it would just disappear? "

Not even two minutes later like not EVEN two minutes, the phone rang again. I got up wondering what the hell is going on, my son is up now hearing what's going on, I get the phone, and I can't even remember what that woman's name was. She wanted $200 as well!!! But from my conversation with Mr. Qualsch, two minutes earlier he told me the payment I was making was on both loans. And this woman is telling me,"No, it's not. If you can afford $200, you can afford $400" I finally cracked. I had explained as well as I could, (I had been crying so hard I could barely talk) that my son has a developmental learning disablility and it was costing alot of money for treatment. She told me I should have never had a kid. Like you know, YOU ALL KNOW, the list goes on and on and I'm sick of whining.

So, here's my dilemma....I have been hiding from them, I do not have a job, my husband makes pretty good money, not lots but decent. I only made two months worth of payments to Collectcorp. before I cancelled those cheques. The final straw was when they called me at work and started screaming at me on the phone telling me to get a lawyer, they even monitored the call. The customers in the restaurant could hear them hollering. I was so scared and embarrassed I've been running ever since. We've moved to a new city, my little one needed more special needs schooling than what the town we lived in offered so that seemed like the perfect opportunity to start over. But, you can never really get away with that. Life is just not that easy.

We have been paying so much in rent that we started looking at getting a mortgage, one of those zero down ones maybe, but all this credit rating stuff keeps coming up, we  finally got married just this past April and I am wondering what can I do? What are our chances for getting a mortgage? Is there any way we can get one without my name on it? Without having to lie? Should I try to call Collectcorp and deal with them? I don't know who to contact now because that was two years ago already. I don't want them knowing where we live or our number. I don't think I could go thru that again. I could probably give them around the same amount a month as before. Bun I am not doing any of this cheque writing and BS, money orders all the way. What do you all suggest? I really need your advice.

Sorry this post is so long.

Thank you for taking the time to read and respond if you did.

Take Care. Next time I promise no long windedness and babbling.

I was so excited to find you guys here. Please write back.

 

Kristie

 

 

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You can get a mortgage without your name on it(We just did it and the banker did not seem to have an issue with it at all..we did not volunteer the sl info but neither did she ask, alls that really matter was his credit/income/ect). The mortgage can be just in your hubbie's name and the bank does not need to know anything about you or your debt, if hubby meets financial criteria himself you are set. The only requirement may be that you sign the homestead act which means that you have a vested interest in the house(hubby cannot sell it out from underneath you). If your name is not on the property tax roles or the mortgage they cannot touch the house with a 10 foot pole.

Collections will however hound you until the end of your days, you really cannot hide from them but need to know your rights and assert the hell out of them. Check out the "How to handle collections" forums on this site. They have NO right to harass you at work, or bug your husband/family/neighbors. Let them know at the beginning of every call that the call is being recorded by you(also get their name/company/managers name) and "if" they ever threaten you calmly say you will be reporting them and hang up the phone, take it off the hook and don't answer again. If you offer to pay them say 100 a month divided between your outstanding debts then they pretty well have to take it, especially if you are not employed(they DO NOT get to take hubby's income...although they will tell you they can/will/want to). As far as the CTB goes...don't let them touch it, its your kids, not theirs and they have NO right to it regardless of what they tell you(tax refunds and gst are another story, they can and will put those towards your debt).
Your husband is right, you cannot hide from this, but if you arm yourself with knowledge you can start to have control over this situation. Even if you can only scrape together a tiny bit of money a month its probably worth it to get them off your back. Don't write cheques, money order is probably better, or if you do write them create an account that you can "do without" not the one your CTB goes into. Also if you straighten out what you and to whom it will be easier to deal with these jackals when they start to hound you!

It is not the end of the world and it can be dealt with but if you keep hiding its going to get worse and worse.

Good Luck :)
Laura
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