This website is a testimony to the problems Canadian Student Loan borrowers experienced from approximately 1996 to 2008 and until their loans were paid off.

The privatization of the Student Loans system by the Chretien and Martin Liberal governments broke the system and defaulted thousands of borrowers who were trying to pay their loans. There were even stories of suicide due to the harassment of borrowers.

Read the report that I prepared back in 2007 here. Canada Student Loans-The Need for Change Fortunately the new Conservative government at the time revamped the program and fixed the system for new borrowers, but borrowers under the previous program were left with ruined credit and continued harassment from debt collectors.

I call on the Canadian Government to apologize to the borrowers affected by this fiasco and make amends.

Unfortunately the Liberal government is again clobbering the Education system with their changes to International Student Visas. Yes, there's a problem, but instead of a well thought out plan, they have pulled the emergency brake on the train causing a derailment. This has introduced unprecedented instability for both private and public education institutions who serve both international and local students.

Universities have been forced to cancel programs and layoff hundreds if not thousands of full-time and contract instructors.

Again, the Liberal government has messed up the education environment.


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    Posted: 05/June/2005 at 2:15pm

I am looking for any suggestions on this. I finished studies in 98. I claimed bankruptcy in 99 and was discharged May 2000. Listed but obviously not included was my student loans in the mix.

Now that they changed the rule to 7 years - My 7 years are up now. I have been paying various amount to the collectors each month since. Does anyone know if I can have the loans included in my bankruptcy or do I have to go bankrupt again? Which I really don't want to do but at almost $60,000 and growing, I can't financially and emotionally bear it anymore. And would I talk to a trustee about it? Thanks

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 Sahara,

 You better check to see if this ruling has been instituted re the reduction to 7 years.

 Once you have ceased to be a full or part-time student for the ten year period (or potential reduction to 7 years), you simply contact your bankruptcy administrator to motion a hearing for discharge. You don't have to go bankrupt all over again. That would be another waste of $1500.00 in the event that you are denied a discharge.

 Before you make an appeal, make sure that you can demonstrate financial hardship with extenuating circumstances, and that you cannot afford to pay anything toward your student loan.

 Caution: the first thing they examine is your reasoning behind your previous bankruptcy. You went bankrupt one year after you finished. They are going to eyeball that, indeed. Also, are you employed? Are you experiencing fianncial hardhsip that is preventing you from making payment toward your student loan?

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 Forgot one thing... you don;t have to go bankrupt again, but youwill have to pay a filing fee to have the case heard. That would be a few hundred bucks or so.

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When I claimed bankruptcy, I was working as a cashier, long story short, a bad relationship had me dupped for $7000 plus a $50 000 student loan. Collection agencies started calling me at work and I didn't know what to do. So I went to credit counselling. They told me, the couldn't help me, that they couldn't set up a payment plan, because I owed too much and I made to little. I felt what are you supposed to do when credit counselling can't help you. They told be about claiming bankruptcy, basically my only option and that when the 10 years were up I could then go back and add it to my bankruptcy. So I did. Since then I have been making payments on my student loans from $100 a week for awhile, while living with my parents and not having many bills.( which still wasn't good enough) according to the collector at the time.) to $35 a month. I have gone from min, wage jobs to $12 hour jobs. To a year of unemployment on Employment Insurance.

Recently, I got married two years ago. All of the assests are in my husbands name. I work for the Govn't of Ontario as a photocopy clerk for the past 2 years. I am just coming off a years materity leave. I have two children now. One from the previous relationship that I have full custody and he has given up rights to.

I am coming off a years materity leave to a surplus notice. And my debt has accumlated to aprox $60 000 now.

 

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The reason why my student loan went into default was because in the breakdown of the relationship, I moved in with my parents and the loan people obviously had my old address and at the time the loan was the last thing on my mind. I kind of went through a nervous breakdown. I didn't receive any letters about my loans untill it was too late. I called the bank to see what I could do and they said it was out of thier hands that it was in collections.  At that time I called the various collection agencies. The bank said they didn't have it and the collection agencies said they didn't have it. IT was another 8 months until the collection agencies started to harrass me and my family. I realise this was really stupid on my part but there is nothing I can do about that now and there seems to be no way to fix it.
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 " So I went to credit counselling. They told me, the couldn't help me, that they couldn't set up a payment plan, because I owed too much and I made to little. I felt what are you supposed to do when credit counselling can't help you. They told be about claiming bankruptcy, basically my only option and that when the 10 years were up I could then go back and add it to my bankruptcy."

 This is the sequence of events that leads to so many bad bankruptcy assignments.

 1) These non-profit credit counseling groups are supposed to be experts in the credit counseling field. There is only one problem - They do NOT counsel you. They put you on the plank and entice you to take a dip in their debt pool which is no different than a bankruptcy proceeding. When they detemrine they cannot make any money from you, they simply tell you to go bankrupt as an exit.

 When a financial or credit based counseling group tells you that they do not know what to tell you ,that is a real problem. They are supposed to be specialists in solving problems. Instead, they create even more by steering people down the wrong roads.

 Sahara, I really am sorry that this had to happen to you. This is not your fault. You were given the worng directions.

 The credit counseling group told you that you could go add it in to your bankruptcy after 10 years ..that is VERY dangerous advice to be giving sincew it is not true. One cannot just wait 10 years and have it included then. The courts and lenders have a say in the matter re oposition processes.

 I wish you the best of luck, sahara. If you ever do need help, I am here for ya.

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Yes it was a not-for-profit agency. And looking back they really didn't help me. I asked if they could try to negotiate a settlement or anything and their response was that collection agencies don't negotiate settlements for student loans.

From my experience in trying to negotiate one, it seems to be the truth. They would agree to a settlement and then conveniently the 'lady in charge of paperwork' is out of town for the weekend but that the deal is only good for today so send the money and we will work out the paperwork next week when she is back. Is the most common respnse I got.

But according to this website, you have negotiated some loans on behalf of people. Can I ask if they were federal loans or provincial? Both my loans are at CBCL. But I fear now that they are so large that they are way beyond settling for anything reasonable.

 

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 Hi Sahara,

I have negotiated for people, indeed. Federal (CSL), Provincial, Class B (Judgment and legal proceedings re CSLP), fed/Prov. bank-risk, risk/shared, CSL2 (government Put-Pack), and so forth.

 I have worked for, and intervened for people regarding every type. That goes for consumer debt and crisis as well.

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